M&M was good early on, but I get what you are saying and in respect, I agree that they were only good for the time they were made. Now days they suck badly compared to most games even a year or two down the road from then that were aimed at the same consumers. They were never really great in any way except that they were very long games. They had pretty much zero storyline to speak of, and the graphics were subpar even for the time they were made. They did have two very good things about them. First they had simply *Huge* maps. Second they required zero patches at all. I think I never had a crash in playing any of the first five M&M games. Nor broken saves. Nothing at all.